KEY
KEY BATTLEGROUND STATES WHICH COULD REALLY SHAKE THINGS UP IN THE LAST FEW DAYS OF
THE ELECTION. SO DID ONE OF
THE CANDIDATES WIN OVER MANY OF
THOSE UNDECIDEDS THIS FINAL
PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE? DEFINITELY
DIFFERENT FROM THE FIRST. WE
GOT INTO A LOT OF ISSUES. YEAH.
LET'S GET INSIGHT NOW FROM OUR
POLITICAL ANALYSTS LAURA FINK
AND WENDY PATRICK. GOOD MORNING
TO YOU LADIES. GOOD MORNING.
LET'S START WITH THE CORONA
VIRUS. THE PRESIDENT SAID BIDEN
TOOK OFFICE. HE'D SHUT DOWN
THE ECONOMY. BIDEN SAID
THE PRESIDENT WITHHELD HOW
SERIOUS THE VIRUS WAS MAKING
THINGS WORSE. DID EITHER
CANDIDATE COMFORT VOTERS AT ALL
AND ON THEIR PLAN MOVING
FORWARD DURING THIS PANDEMIC?
LET'S START WITH YOU, WENDY.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT
THE PANDEMIC IS SOMETHING YOU
JUST CAN'T PIN ON
THE PRESIDENT'S. AND IT'S ONE
OF THOSE THINGS THAT
THE PRESIDENT HAS A LITTLE BIT
OF CODED CREDIBILITY HAVING
CONTRACTED HIMSELF AND REALLY
SORT OF CHANGED THE TONE OF HOW
SERIOUS THAT HE BELIEVES THAT
IT WAS. SO THE TIMING WAS ON
HIS SIDE IN TERMS TALKING ABOUT
HOW TO DEAL WITH THE CRISIS.
BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS
THAT, YOU KNOW, BOTH CANDIDATES
ARE SORT OF AT ODDS AND TRYING
TO GUESS HOW THIS IS GOING TO
PLAY OUT BECAUSE DESPITE
OPERATION WARP SPEED YOU GOT TO
LOVE THAT NAME. I THINK
THE PRESIDENT GETS SOME CREDIT
FOR THAT. WE JUST DON'T KNOW
WHEN WE'LL HAVE A VACCINE. SO
WE'RE LEFT WITH DO WE KEEP
THE ECONOMY SHUT OR DO WE
REOPEN SAFELY? BOTH CANDIDATES
WANT THE LATTER TO REOPEN
SAFELY. IT'S THE WAY THEY'RE
GOING ABOUT IT THAT I THINK WAS
LANDING THE MOST BLOWS AS THEY
TALKED ABOUT IT WITH EACH
OTHER. SO I THINK THE BIT
THE BIGGEST WINNER OF THAT
CONVERSATION LAST NIGHT WAS
PROBABLY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
BECAUSE THEY SAW MORE SUBSTANCE
AND STYLE LAST NIGHT THAN THEY
CERTAINLY DID IN THE FIRST
DEBATE NOW. IS THAT GOING TO
HELP THE PRESIDENT IN
THE POLLS? I THINK IT WILL BUT
WE'RE GOING TO WAIT AND SEE ON
THAT ONE BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE
HAVE ALREADY VOTED. LAURA, I'M
SORRY FACIAL EXPRESSIONS. THERE
YOU DISAGREE? WELL, I MEAN I
JUST GO AND I LOOK AT
THE NUMBERS AND THE PRESIDENT
IS NOT TRUSTED ON
THE CORONAVIRUS ACROSS
THE BOARD AND I THINK EASY YOU
KNOW, HIS BASE DOESN'T RATE
THAT AS A HUGE ISSUE. THEY LIKE
HIM BUT EVERYBODY ELSE'S HAS
SOURED ON HIS RESPONSE AND I
THINK THE MORE THE BETTER. YOU
KNOW, THE PRESIDENT SHOULD GET
OFF THAT TOPIC IF HE WANTS TO.
IF HE WANTS TO WIN. I THINK JOE
BIDEN LANDED THE PUNCH BECAUSE
THE PRESIDENT DENIED
CORONAVIRUS WAS SURGING AND HE
SAYS WE'RE LEARNING TO LIVE
WITH AND JOE BIDEN SAID WE'RE
DYING WITH IT. AND I THINK WHEN
I THINK ABOUT THOSE SWING
VOTERS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
THAT THREE TO FOUR PERCENT
SEVEN DEPEND WHO YOU LOOK AT
THOSE SWING VOTERS MANY OF THEM
ARE SENIORS IN STATES LIKE
FLORIDA WHO ARE LOOKING TO TRY
TO DETERMINE WHO THEY TRUST
WITH THE CORONA VIRUS MOVING
FORWARD. AND WHEN YOU SAY
THINGS LIKE THAT AND THEN
THE NEXT MINUTE THEY SEE A NEWS
STORY IN THEIR STATE THAT TALKS
ABOUT THE SURGE IT LOOT, IT
CAUSES TRUMP TO LOSE EVEN MORE
CREDIBILITY. SO I THINK THAT
WAS A BAD MOMENT FOR HIM.
THE TALK OF THE CORONA VIRUS,
THE FOCUS ON IT WAS A BRIGHT
SPOT FOR BIDEN. NOW WHEN WE
LOOK AT THE OVERALL DEBATE AND
KIND OF THE FEELINGS PEOPLE GOT
FROM THIS, IS THIS A DEBATE
WHERE YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE A
TRUMP SUPPORTER YOU'RE NOT
REASSURED AND YOUR CANDIDATE IF
YOU'RE A BIDEN SUPPORTER, YOU
LOVE HIM EVEN MORE? OR DO YOU
THINK IT'S SWAYED THE PEOPLE
EITHER WAY? WELL, I THINK IT'S
ONE OF THOSE DEBATES THAT ENDED
BEING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THE PRESIDENT VERSUS
THE POLITICIAN AT SOME SAYS.
AND IT ALMOST WAS LIKE JOE
BIDEN WAS THE INCUMBENT IN SOME
PORTIONS WHERE JOE BIDEN HAD
ALL THESE GREAT IDEAS. HE
TALKED ABOUT AND HE ACTUALLY
ARTICULATE THEM A LOT BETTER
THAN HE DID IN THE FIRST DEBATE
AS DID THE PRESIDENT. AND THEN
THE PRESIDENT COME BACK AND
SAY, WELL, JOE, YOU HAD EIGHT
YEARS. WHY DIDN'T YOU DO IT?
AND THAT BECAME A THEME ALMOST
AS IF IT WAS A THEME THAT
PERMITTED EACH OF THE TOPICS
THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T LIKE
TALKING ABOUT CORONAVIRUS. BUT
EVERY DEBATE STARTS WITH A HE
DIDN'T CHOOSE THESE TOPICS. AND
I DO HAVE TO SAY BOTH
CANDIDATES ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF
THE GATE A LITTLE BIT AND
TALKED ABOUT WHAT THEY WANTED
TO TALK ABOUT DESPITE
THE MODERATOR. BUT YEAH, I
THINK THAT THAT CHARACTERIZED A
LITTLE BIT OF THE DEBATE THAT
YOU KNOW, THE PRESIDENT REALLY
GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK
ABOUT WHAT HE'S DONE AND THEN
COMPARED IT WITH JOE BIDEN'S
DEFAULTING TO SOUND BITES AND
TALKING POINTS. LOOKING INTO
THE CAMERA LIKE YOU DID
THE FIRST DEBATE BUT LOSING A
LITTLE BIT OF THE MOMENTUM HE
HAD DURING THE FIRST DEBATE
WHERE THE PRESIDENT BEHAVED A
LITTLE WORSE NOW. LAURA, WHAT'S
YOUR TAKE ON THAT? WELL, YOU
KNOW, I LOOK AT THIS THIS WAY.
IT'S ABOUT THE SWING VOTERS AND
IT'S ABOUT WHERE WE'RE IN
THE CYCLE. AND RIGHT NOW
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S BEHIND. IF
YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS HE
NEEDS TO WIN TWO OUT OF EVERY
THREE SWING VOTERS WHICH MEANS
EVEN IF YOU CONSIDER THIS A
WASH. IT'S A LOSS FOR PRESIDENT
TRUMP. AND I THINK YOU DID WHEN
HE'S RIGHT. HE LANDED A COUPLE
OF HITS BUT HE HE HE REALLY WAS
SPEAKING LARGELY IN HIS ATTACKS
ON BIDEN IN THE FOX NEWS
LEXICON WHICH IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE
OF THAT SORT OF RIGHT WING
MEDIA ECOSYSTEM YOU WON'T KNOW
WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE
SAYS RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA OR
THE LAPTOP FROM. SO I THOUGHT
THAT WAS A MISTAKE TO SORT SIT
THERE. THE OTHER MISTAKE I
THOUGHT PRESIDENT TRUMP MADE A
MISSED OPPORTUNITY IS THAT HE
DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE.
HE REALLY WAS DEFENDING HIS
RECORD, DIGGING IN HIS HEELS
AND YOU'RE PRETTY YOU CAN GO
HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT
THE PRESIDENT'S RECORD IS
PRETTY FIXED RIGHT NOW. YOU'RE
NOT GOING TO PERSUADE A LOT OF
VOTERS WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING
TO, WHO'S GOING TO LEAD IN
THE FUTURE. AND I THOUGHT WHY
FOCUSING ON THAT REALLY HELPED
HIM AND WHEN HE'S RIGHT HE DID
BEHAVE AS IF HE WAS
THE PRESIDENT. HE TOOK THAT
MANTLE AND SAID HERE'S WHAT I'M
GOING TO DO. AND I THINK AT
THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW,
BIDEN BIDEN DID WELL HE DID
WELL ENOUGH TO HOLD THE LINE
WHICH WAS ALL HE NEEDED TO DO.
THE BAR WAS HIGHER FOR
PRESIDENT TRUMP BECAUSE HE IS
BEHIND AND THAT CLOSING
ARGUMENT WAS ANOTHER MISSED
OPPORTUNITY. BIDEN'S KRISTEN
WELKER SAID HEY, TALK DIRECTLY
TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. TELL
THEM WHAT YOU WOULD SAY TO
THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T VOTE FOR
YOU AND JOE BIDEN EXPRESSED A
MESSAGE OF UNITY. AND HE TALKED
ABOUT HOW HE WOULD REPRESENT
ALL AMERICANS EVEN IF THEY
DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM AND TALKED
ABOUT THE PROMISE OF
THE COUNTRY AND THE ENORMOUS
OPPORTUNITY MOVING FORWARD
AGAIN FORWARD THINKING
PRESIDENT TRUMP REALLY DIDN'T
ANSWER THE QUESTION AND HE
COULD HAVE. AND THAT WAS A
MOMENT WHERE HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN
ABLE TO GRAB THOSE SWING VOTERS
SAY FOR A WEEK BEFORE WE WRAP
UP UNITY. BEFORE WE WRAP UP
HERE, LADIES, ONE OR TWO LINES.
WENDY, WE'LL START WITH YOU ON
WHY YOU THINK YOUR CANDIDATE.
ALL TALK NO ACTION WAS A
SOUNDBITE. THAT'S NOT A RIGHT
WING TALKING POINT AND THAT
CHARACTERIZED THE PRESIDENT'S
REALLY DISAPPROVAL OF WHAT JOE
BIDEN IS SAYING. I THINK THAT
WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
RESONATES WITH AMERICAN VOTERS
REGARDLESS OF THEIR
UNDERSTANDING OF ALL THE DEEP
ISSUES. I AGREE. THEY DON'T
KNOW WHAT RUSH RUSH RUSSIA
MEANS BUT THEY KNOW WHAT ALL
TALK NO ACTION MEANS. I ALSO
THOUGHT THAT THE POSITIVITY WAS
EXPRESSED ALMOST TANGENTIALLY
THROUGH EVERYTHING
THE PRESIDENT SAID HE HAD BEEN
DOING WITH THE INSINUATION THAT
THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF
THE SAME FOR FOR YOUR SUCCESS.
I DO WISH HE ASKED FOR THE LAST
QUESTION A LITTLE MORE FORWARD
THINKING AND POSITIVELY BUT I
THINK AS A WHOLE STEPPING BACK
AND LOOKING AT THE DEBATE THAT
WAS THE THEME OF I'M GOING TO
MOVE FORWARD GIVING YOU MORE
SUCCESS AS I'VE DONE IN
THE LAST FOUR YEARS. LAURA,
YOUR THOUGHTS? WELL, YOU KNOW,
I THINK I THINK THAT I COULD
HAVE SAID IT ALL BUT I WOULD
SAY TO WENDY'S POINT, YOU KNOW,
THIS PRESIDENT I THINK IS A
IT'S A REFERENDUM ON HIM. AND
SO I THINK HE WAS REALLY
EMBODYING THE CHALLENGER AND
THAT WAS A PROBLEM. THAT'S WHAT
WE WANT IN 2016. BUT IT'S
DIFFERENT WHEN YOU HAVE TO RUN
ON YOUR RECORD. AND SO HE HE
DID BETTER THAN IN THE LAST
DEBATES. BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S
ENOUGH. IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH.
ALL RIGHT. I ALWAYS APPRECIATE
YOUR TIME, LADIES. THANKS FOR